A forensic psychologist who interviewed the 8-year-old daughter of Bethenny Frankel and her ex Jason Hoppy offered an unorthodox opinion about her wellbeing during court custody battle Tuesday: “Who the hell knows!”
Dr. Alan Ravitz made the surprise exclamation following questions from Hoppy’s lawyer, Robert Wallack, as to whether youngster Bryn’s proximity to the limelight via her celeb mom could affect her long-term mental health.
“I don’t know that Bryn being exposed to publicity is necessarily a bad thing,” Ravitz said during his Manhattan supreme court testimony. “I don’t think there’s any data to suggest that it’s good or bad as a general kind of principal.”
Afterward, Ravitz quickly turned to judge Michael Katz to apologize for his own language, to which Katz quipped: “That’s your professional opinion?”
The “RHONY” star and Hoppy have clauses in their custody and financial agreements that say they won’t publicly disparage the other or promote Bryn on social media — both of which Hoppy claims Frankel does.
Frankel is currently fighting for full custody of their daughter, while Hoppy wants shared custody. Ravitz interviewed their daughter first in 2013 following their split, and then again in 2018.
Meanwhile, Ravitz said Bryn, though acutely aware of her parents’ dislike for each other, is doing very well.
However, he had less upbeat things to say about her parents.
“His moral disapproval [of Frankel] rang false, it was situational and self-serving,” Ravitz said circa 2013 of Hoppy, who in emails read aloud in court Monday slammed the reality TV star for being a bad role model for their daughter.
The psychologist said Tuesday he still found that to be true in 2018, and still agreed with other early findings, such as that Hoppy had the ability to be “particularly petty, vindictive, insensitive and mean-spirited.”
Ravitz said he also thought that Hoppy was “emotionally violent” to Frankel, and that she was “psychologically traumatized” by his controlling behavior.
“You’d agree Bethenny is not a shrinking violet,” Wallack asked, before amending the statement to say “Bethenny’s someone who describes herself as a force.”
“She was not subjugated by Jason,” Ravitz replied. “But she was likely intimidated, and she was likely stressed.”